Time Submitted: 07:35:16 PM | 02/17/20 Submitted By: BladeForged (6905)
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18:30 ish 17/02/2020
3.1 Player Initiation - Initiating on another player and/or group can only happen through Direct Chat and must be clear enough for the other party to hear. Valid Initiation: Saying "You will be shot" or "I will kill you" or threatening to knock someone out while holding a lethal firearm while adhering to roleplay standard is valid player initiation. If someone states they will shoot you or rubber bullet you while adhering roleplay standard is valid player initiation. Saying you will shoot someone's tires whilst holding a firearm is considered valid player initiation. If negotiations are called off, the parties involved have valid player initiation after 15 seconds You must give sufficient time to allow the other player to comply with your demands. The player initiating must be visible to the players they are initiating on so they can confirm you have a lethal weapon. Invalid Initiation: APC sirens/lights and spike strips are not considered to be initiation. You may not initiate on another person/group whilst you are sitting in any vehicle. You may not initiate on your own group or faction members. Exceptions can be made in cases where a third party would not be affected and is adhering to the roleplay standard rule. 1.2 RDM - RDM is shooting, using rubber bullets, using a taser, knocking someone out and/or killing another player without adhering to Roleplay Standard and Valid Initiation. You must give the other party enough time to comply with your demands and consider their actions before you engage. You are not permitted to execute a person if you were not involved in the incapacitation of that person. RDM does not count as initiation.
Explain what happened:
Logged onto the server to collect a vehicle I had won at auction and afterwards took my helicopter to fly upto a rebel hideout that a gang member was capturing landed on the helipad and ran over to the command hq building and started shouting to scare my friend. I then thought that i would just wait and protect him while he geared up then i would log off to go play tarkov with another friend. Upon taking a combat stance to make myself low to the wall i heard someone initiating however i did not see anyone around so started to scan the landscape. If you look at the timestamp 0:42-0:43 in simons video (linked below) you can clearly tell that i had no idea where he was as he quickly crouched down after finishing talking taking himself out of my vision before i looked up the dmt. At the timestamp in my video 1:23 you can barely see simons head poking out of second platform of the dmt. I had to watch back the video 3 times and only spotted him when simon messaged me in teamspeak and told me he was sitting there.
-The player initiating must be visible to the players they are initiating on so they can confirm you have a lethal weapon.
At the time of the incident i did not see him at all and neither did my gang member next to me. After watching the video back multiple times and zooming in on where his head pokes up i could not see a weapon also. The Admin dealing with the case, spawnthedeath confirmed that he did not see a weapon also. After we were both killed my gang member said he didn't even hear any initiation. In the discord i was in at the time some of the members like to use soundboards so i didn't know if i was being trolled by them.
In simons video when i am killed i am facing the other way clearly showing to him from his perspective that i had not seen him.
I did not want to take this to a player report but simons persistence that he did nothing wrong and refused to see my side of the story as well as trying to avoid a support case by telling me that it was a waste of time after talking with spawn i decided that a player report was the only way to get another staff members opinion on it. https://gyazo.com/32ec9cdbd271a0fb7d1e3344fb816692
Simons video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MgR-N6pKMU&feature=youtu.be&t=34
My video : https://medal.tv/clips/19591331/d1337dpzmL1k
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